WeRelate:Suggestions/Cemetery pages only on burial location

This suggestion was implemented Mar-Apr 2022--DataAnalyst 23:24, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


It would be nice if Place pages of type=Cemetery were screened out of drop-down lists on all uses except burial location. Given multiple cemeteries in each town, it is frustrating to weed through 6 or 8 cemeteries matching the same town name when you are inputting birth, etc. Especially as there are multiple comments about creating pages for every cemetery listed in Find A Grave. --Jrich 09:43, 10 November 2012 (EST)

I agree - I have recently been burned by Cemeteries in auto-complete of Places. One problem I have found is there may be a Cemetery defined for a venue (town/township/etc) where the immediately containing Place is not defined. Then even if you don't select the Cemetery, the auto-complete will still fill it in as the Place because it "matches". This has also happened to me in some other cases where the Place I am trying to enter is not defined, but the Cemetery is the most egregious example (was this Person really born in a Cemetery?). --Jhamstra 10:57, 11 November 2012 (EST)
It seems like the place hierarchy out to be fully populated above any place, as a matter of course (not that that says anything about the usefulness of the suggestion) --Tfmorris 15:59, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok. It is looking like this one is getting some traction, so let's nail down the specifics. Each Event/Fact line can be assigned a "Type of event". You have stated that you would like cemeteries screened out of the dropdown of all types, except "Burial" and "Alt Burial", but what about "Funeral" or "Property" or "Other", in case there are some situations where those might apply? Note that filtering the dropdown should not prevent a cemetery from being entered in that line manually, it will just not be presented as a choice to select. --cos1776 11:55, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
I would say limit it to Burial and Alt Burial, since that is what cemeteries are for.
  • While some cemeteries have funeral homes attached, the funeral is in the funeral home, not the actual cemetery and we don't need to identify the funeral home any more than we identify the church for a marriage. (And probably someone has conducted a funeral in a cemetery, but that is not the norm.)
  • As for Property, to say that someone "owns" a cemetery (i.e., the cemetery is located on their land) is really information about the cemetery more than it is information about the person.
  • I have less concern about Other, but I think that for the reasons cited above, it is best to keep cemeteries out of that list as well, unless there is significant use of the Other event type for memorials (separate suggestion).
One further note - there was a change to how places are prioritized in the dropdown since this request. If anyone currently watching this page believes this is no longer a priority, please "unwatch" so that we know. Thanks--DataAnalyst 17:55, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
I disagree because I think cemeteries should not have a place page; instead use the place=municipality and description=cemetery. Why is this even allowed? Perhaps because many burials are at the location? If that is the reason; then perhaps we should also allow place pages for hospitals since many births and deaths occur at those locations. --fbax.ca 02:36, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Just want to register that I agree with the last remark, though I thought that fight was over. --Jrich 06:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
(taking to talk page) --ceyockey 20:55, 20 November 2021 (UTC)