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[edit] Categories/Facts.... [18 November 2013]I've been doing a bunch of work making use of templates to associate categories and facts. I wrote a blurb on it for Delijim, and he sort of suggested that those were mostly a matter of your interest. So may I request that you review "Early Settlers and Categories as facts on his talk page? Thanks! --jrm03063 15:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC) [edit] On Documentation [23 April 2010]Hi, back. Got your message. Yes, I do share some of your views about documentation, which is why I was so happy to see your article. Would love to see it more prominently displayed where more people could see it.--GayelKnott 00:39, 23 April 2010 (EDT)
Part of what I need to update is comments about the difficulty of Sources. I think Sources were still being reviewed at the time I wrote, and there were duplications and contradictions, plus it was something new to learn. A lot of those duplications etc. seem to have been cleared up and I'm more comfortable with the system, so my only remaining "complaint" is that I have to type out the entire title rather than just clicking on the correct title when it appears. Copying from a previous citation, either on the same page or on a different page opened on a different tab, helps. Having also used NewFamilySearch on a trial basis, along with (now) Ancestry, I have to say that I find WeRelate the easiest, and that is part of what I will want to say on my User page (some day soon). But I think the bottom line for a lot of people is still going to be -- it's work. Just go with what "Aunt Susie" or "Cousin Bob" said. And even if those are their only sources, I think it's better that they cite them than not doing so. If nothing else, it's an honest statement of who (maybe) did the actual work. Having started doing genealogy before anything was on line, I have relied on "cousins" for help and information, and still do. Where they are my own direct line or family (all siblings, at least), I try to document what I get, but am not always that careful about people I consider peripheral. So as much as they may be something of a mess, I think the MySource pages are useful -- although I still haven't quite figured out how to organize mine. There are a lot of other things I need to figure out how to do, and will probably do rather poorly the first time or two. I'd like, for instance, to put together something on early Baptists in Kentucky and Indiana, and maybe something about the anti-slavery movement in Indiana Territory, but those are projects way down the line. Just a related comment -- I do find the Featured Pages useful, particularly when they suggest ways to use pages/do thinks that I hadn't thought of.--GayelKnott 17:09, 23 April 2010 (EDT)
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[edit] Andrew Cowan - his whereabouts in 1775 [10 June 2010]I hope you find this useful: Deposition of Charles Cocke in the Case of McKenney vs. Preston, O. S. 308; N. S. 110 (1811); taken in Wayne County, KY; original on file at Augusta County Courthouse: "The Deposition of Charles Cocke of the age of 60 years and Jacob Hooser of the age of Sixty one years taken at the house of Roger Oats in Wayne County and State of Kentucky on the Eighth day of June Eighteen Hundred and Eleven . . . The Deponent Cocke after being duly sworn Deposeth and Saith that Sometime in the year 1775 he was on Blackwater it being a North Branch of Clinch River at Thomas Ausborn's [Osborne's] improvement and he saw Andrew Cowan there at work at Sd Ausborn and the Sd Cowan told him that his improvement was Joining that Sd Ausborn's improvement rather below and on the East fork of Blackwater . . ."--Pecrowther 17:43, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
Charles Cocke and Andrew Cowan appeared together in many documents. For example, both were appointed Justices in Russell County in 1781. Here are a few more documents that might be useful: 1. This list includes both Andrew Cowan and Thomas Osborne Historical Sketches of Southwest Virginia, Publication 4 - 1968: List of Troops at Moore's Fort - June 30, 1777 (Draper Mss 1 XX 20 and 1 XX 24) Patrick Porter, Sergeant, Lewis Green, Jr., Robert Kilgore, James Alley, Charles Kilgore, Samuel Alley, John Montgomery, Samuel Porter, Zachariah Green, John Alley, Alexander Montgomery, Sr., Alexander Montgomery, Jr., Andrew Cowan, Frederick Friley, John Kinkead, John Barksdale, James Ozburn (Osborne), Thomas Osborne, Nehemiah Noe. 2. This shows that Andrew Cowan was still living in Russell County, VA in 1797 (Charles Cocke has settled in Lee County) Russell County, VA- November 20, 1797, Calender of State Papers (p. 453) : Pursuant to a direction of the worshipful Court of Russell county, I do hereby certify that the following Gentlemen are in Commission of the peace in and for the county of Russell. Those that now act are as follows, to wit: Henry Smith, David Ward, Andrew Cowan, Samuel Ritchie, Thomas Carter, John Thompson, Charles Brickley, Richard Price, John Tate, James Gibson, Samuel Robinson, John Smith, Samuel Ewing, and James Dickinson, Gentlemen. Those that have removed are: Alexander Barnett, John Frazer, Charles Cocke, Joshua Ewing, and Christopher Cooper, Gentleman. James Wharton, Gentleman, is dead. James Scott refuses to qualify. Given under my hand his 20th day of November, 1797. Henry Dickinson, C.R.C. Let me know if there is a better way to pass on these comments.--Pecrowther 03:57, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
[edit] WeRelate versus SWVP [3 September 2010]I noticed your changes to Joseph Kilgore's page. I don't know why it isn't sufficient to work within the WeRelate framework, why you have to layer a whole new system of stuff on pages you touch so they don't work like other WeRelate pages, like a big banner that interferes with the family info boxes, or putting source information about parents on a separate page in a pseudo namespace that linked to from one son's page, but not in the normal places where other WeRelate users put it and expect to find such information? It is not really fair to expect other people to maintain your additions. Nor do I understand why you need to place the stamp of your SWVP project all over a guy from Maine? Not a single thing on his page or your Notebook page present any connection of him to Southwest Virginia, except possibly that he is your 7th great grandfather, which isn't really appropriate information for WeRelate anyway, and is the type of things which several people besides myself have been removing from pages when we find it. I would also point out that your Southwest Virginia doesn't seem to match with what wikipedia defines as Southwest Virginia making the whole thing seem a little too arbitrary and personal for a wiki environment. --Jrich 23:12, 1 September 2010 (EDT) Hi Jrich Sorry you do not approve of the Tapestry approach, but then you don't seem to understand what that's about. Please note that the inserted banner didn't relate to southwest virginia, but to the Tapestry Project. As far as a connection is concerned, between James and Penelope and the Tapestry project, the fact is that they are related to Kilgore's in, among other places, Old Chester, (specifically Cumberland County, and Cecil County Maryland, the Carolina Cradle, and, not to ignore it, Southwest Virginia. James came to Maine quite a bit earlier (well maybe not that much earlier) than the immigrant Kilgores in the other areas, but there's no hint of a family connection between them, at least as far as traditional genealogical records are concerned. Yet there is. The YDNA signatures of all of these Kilgores, match closely. That means that they all share a relatively recent common ancestor sometime before 1720. That ancestor might be in Ireland, as some think, or in Scotland, as others think. But its relatively recent, probably in the 1600's, and probably recoverable. But to do that there's a need to explore all of those lines. The approach used in the tapestry facilitates this. Had you chosen to use the links to explore the Kilgore Tapestry, you would have discoved some of these connections. True, work on this particular Tapestry is just getting underway, and so some of the presentations are incomplete, but the core information is there, had you chosen to explore. By the way, the purpose of the notebooks is to capture information about a particular subject. Mostly, notebooks are temporary holding areas to store that information. I usually try to scrub out the personalized information that I find, but that hasn't been done with the notebook created last night for James and Penelope. Q 08:12, 2 September 2010 (EDT)
Oh, my goodness! Thank you for taking the time to explain to me what you don't like about the way I'm using WeRelate. Now, after you've taken the time to figure out what I'm actually doing, as opposed to what you think I'm doing, get back to me. Q 10:15, 2 September 2010 (EDT)
Take the time to figure out what's going on, and we can talk. Otherwise, there's no need to continue the conversation. You might want to start with figuring out why a guy in Maine is relevant. I've already eplained why, though you seem so intent on other things, that you didn't notice. If you expect me to pay attention to you ideas, please have the courtesty of paying attention to mine. Q 11:44, 2 September 2010 (EDT)
Good, glad to see that you took the time to figure that out. Now, if you can tone down your language, and avoid hotbutton words, perhaps we can have a conversation. Q 13:33, 2 September 2010 (EDT)
For example, Savage's Dictionary was covers all settlers with "an absolute limit, like 1692 (the era of arrival of the new charter), for admission of any family stocks". Are there intuitive, natural boundaries to your group, so people are not asking "Why is yearA so important?" or "Why is this county in Virginia included and not the one next to it?" Perhaps you have answers to this, but the description on your Tapestry Explanation page don't seem very detailed. It seems like an arbitrary group of people.
And how would you know if the categorization is or is not of "community interest"? While the categorization may not be of much interest to you personally, there is a subset of folks both registered on Werelate, and not registered, which make use of that information. Not every user of this site is a registered user of WeRelate---quite the contrary. Most users are not registered. Some choose to register just so they can set the "watch page". Not many, perhaps, but enough to know that there's interest here beyond the dozen or so active editors on this site. --Jrich 00:05, 3 September 2010 (EDT)
[edit] Tapestry Edits [15 okt 2010]Hi I notice that you have made a number of redirects for pages in the Tapestry project. The Tapestry is definitely a work in progress, and any and all help is greatly appreciated. The Tapestry is being crafted with considerable thought given to the interconnectedness of the articles. Since the concept is evolving there are indeed places (perhaps too many) where the linkages shown are not the most appropriate under current thinking. Currently, for want of appropriate namespaces, we've been using "pseudo namespaces for certain data types, such as "Data: " and "Analysis: ". It is my understanding that some of these pseudo namespaces will eventually be formalized ("Data: "). Others will be left alone, but will be converted to the form "Analysis. XYZ". That will be accomplished globally by Dallan. Note that the remaining "pseudo name spaces" will take the form "Analysis. XYZ", not "Analysis.XYZ". The existing pseudo name spaces have been carefully crafted to meet certain specific needs. Arbitrarily redirecting something from one pseudo name space to another, does not help meet those needs. While there are undoubtedly instances where information pages have been entitled using the wrong pseudoname space, that's primarily a function of working out the mechanics of the concept. Things evolve, and when new ideas and approaches are adopted, not all of the old ideas and approaches are immediately retrofited. Thus, there are probably cases where somethings that belong under "Analysis. " are entitled "Notebook. ", etc. Those will eventually be caught and corrected. Your help here would be appreciated, but you need to familiarize yourself more with the intent of the Tapestry and of the pseudo namespaces in use. Q 12:49, 15 October 2010 (EDT)
[edit] Source pg question [9 November 2010]I'm curious about the title for the source page for Chalkley: Source:Chalkely, Lyman. Chalkley, Lyman. Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia Why is the author's name there twice? I figured there was some reason so I was hesitant to change it. --Janiejac 11:38, 8 November 2010 (EST)
[edit] Merging sources [30 January 2011]Hi - a new user User:Murphynw has added a source that duplicates Source:Annals of Tennessee to the End of the Eighteenth Century; see Source:Ramsey, James Gettys McGready. Annals of Tennessee to the End of the Eighteenth Century. Do you have any objections to consolidating these pages? My plan is to combine the page content, and use the second page title, as it includes the author. However, the original source has more extensive links/usage, so my plan is to add the content of the new page (available throu Family history centers) and update the bibliographic info and repositories on the original source, and then remove the duplicate, and rename your original source. Sound ok? Because you have an extensive project that this source is a part of, I wanted to be sure to clarify with you that the changes would work correctly for you. Plus, you two should "meet" (in a virtual sense). Nathan User:Murphynw works on Tennessee and Virginia county pages at the Family Search Wiki.... --Brenda (kennebec1) 13:57, 22 January 2011 (EST). The easiest way to handle this would be to retitle Source:Annals of Tennessee to the End of the Eighteenth Century to fit current conventions. That would give an automatic redirect from any page that cites this item. The only reason the page doesn't currently conform is because it was created before the current convention was adopted. A more complicated way to handle this would be to redirect the Source:Annals of Tennessee to the End of the Eighteenth Century to the new page, but this would also require transferring the additional information that's been added to the former. As I said renameing the first version would be easier, but then you'd have to delete the new version first. Or use slightly different names for one or the other. Not difficult to do since under current rules, the "true" name is not really predictable. Q 14:10, 22 January 2011 (EST) Ok, will do so... thanks--Brenda (kennebec1) 11:35, 30 January 2011 (EST) I've fixed several redirects and removed some duplicate pages, but have left the Source:Annals of Tennessee to the End of the Eighteenth Century as a redirect so that a drop-down box result will show this source without the author if that is what is entered by the user; this seems like one of those titles that is generally well known and might well be searched for by title alone. I think your inline citations now redirect to the current page... Thanks. --Brenda (kennebec1) 12:00, 30 January 2011 (EST) [edit] Test page [16 February 2011]Hi Quolla6, I ran across this page today: Person:Test TestSubject (1). Do you still need it for any reason, or should I delete it? Thanks, --Jennifer (JBS66) 07:20, 16 February 2011 (EST) [edit] Next step: Review your GEDCOM [19 March 2011]You're not done yet! WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors. Now that you have uploaded SmithWillis.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it. Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier. Click here to review your GEDCOM Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.
[edit] SmithWillis.ged [20 March 2011]Hi Q, I was just looking over some of the edits from your most recent gedcom. I'm wondering, did you mean to delete quite a bit of birth, marriage, and death data on your merged individuals? For example: this edit removed a birth, death, and burial location. This edit changed the birth event from Washington Country, Virginia to Washington County, Iowa. --Jennifer (JBS66) 18:54, 19 March 2011 (EDT)
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[edit] Smith Willis Pension Application [12 April 2011]Found the pension app on Footnote. I sent it to your personal E-Mail because I don't have this E-Mail. I get to this page via links. At any rate, if you could let me know what Email I need to send it to you through WeRelate, I'm sure you would prefer that. I don't know if you can use this image on this site or that would be a violation. Another reason I'm sending it to you personally. If you can't use the image, you can always copy it and have it for yourself.
Hi T. If you look on the left hand sidebar, and click "more", you'll get the "email this user link". Its the same address as I use for everything else. Whether you can use the image or not depends largely on its copyright status, and the site policy of your source. Its presumably an older court record, before 1923, so not protected by copyright. Footnote may or may not have any restrictions on the use of images obtained on their site. Have you looked at the terms and conditions? Q 07:40, 12 April 2011 (EDT) [edit] Cowans [16 April 2011]Hi Bill, got your message on the Cowan's. You are surely right that they are exceptionally confusing, many, many different "versions" across the internet. I do think that a few of the Cowan's we have on WeRelate may be duplicated, but I'll let you work most of them out. I believe I did manage to figure out that the Samuel Cowan that married Margaret Keith was not Samuel Cowan, Sheriff of Blount County, TN, that married Esther "Hettie" Houston; obviously overlapping dates, marriages and children. Let me know if you disagree on this. Anyway, what I'll try to do from this point forward is put additional records on the person pages to (hopefully) assist you in helping to sort them out. Best regards, Jim:)--Delijim 10:27, 16 April 2011 (EDT) [edit] Somebody is getting the hang of it.... [17 April 2011]Bill, I have been wondering why A. Joseph Guffey hasn't had DNA testing done. I remember back 10 years ago when he was writing his book, he was everywhere. Just doesn't make sense he wouldn't pursue the DNA. I did some digging around and found an archived post from him on the Guffey genforum dated 2004 and he mentioned he had colon cancer. He was going through another round of Chemo and apologized for not being able to answer the posts. I couldn't find anymore posts from him nor did I find anything mentioned. I think he may have died. Just thought I would pass that along. You may already know - I didn't. T--Ruthnevada 00:45, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
[edit] Cases heard before the Supreme Court for the District of Kentucky 1785-1792 [21 April 2011]lawsuit between John Isaacs and William Willis If you can get to this link, it is pretty interesting. It involves a lawsuit between John Isaacs and William Willis of Lincoln County. There is a plat map showing Willis settled below Dicks River adjoining Thomas Wilson's land. Names Wilson's run, Teator, etc. This particular case Willis lost. Seems both parties had claimed the same land; one by a military warrant and the other by a pre-emption warrant. William Willis settled with a military warrant #248 dated 1780. This case was 1786. Other court info mentions Willis withdrawing an entry for 400 acres. It may had been near or adjoined land that he lost. Possibly he settled with his warrant somewhere else?--Ruthnevada 23:28, 20 April 2011 (EDT) [edit] [23 August 2011]Below is a link to Supreme Court rulings in the District of Kentucky 1785-92 This involves William Willis being sued by John Issacs over a land dispute. Willis had a military warrant and Issac's had a premption warrant and Issacs won. This case went down in the law books as far as what trumped what back then. This info was found on Google Books and it looks as though it can be downloaded for free. What it does show is a plat map. The map indicates property lines, Dix River, Wilson's Run, etc. giving an idea where this land was. I think it may be in what is now Garrard County. If you get access to the info in this book through this link, I think you will make more sense of it all than I. Another entry in the book has Willis withdrawing his entry for 400 acres. If this date is AFTER the date that he lost in court, it may be that he moved to another location Supreme Court rulings--ruthnevada 00:39, 21 April 2011 (EDT)
McKenzie was not thought to be the eldest child. A William Willis signed for Rachel Willis to marry Christopher Durbin in 1814. In 1816 a Nancy Willis was summoned to answer to the court why her minor son had not be bound out due to the father absconding from the country. (Of course we know that "country" usually meant out of state back then). In 1820 Nancy Willis signed for her son McKenzie Willis to marry indicating the absence of a father. In 1820 census of Madison Co. Ky.; McKenzie is living next door to Christopher Durbin alone. Assuming Rachel and McKinzie were siblings, there is a 6 year difference in marriages, not a 6 year AGE difference but both were minors when they were married. So if McKenzie was 20 when he needed a signature in 1820 and Rachel was 15, 16 or 17 in 1814; she would be older than McKenzie. I started a process of elimination of Willises in Madison Co. Ky. that were known to be children of Drury but was side-tracked. Hoping to see if there may have been other children who could be a sibling to McKinzie. Need to get back to that. ruthnevada 14:49, 22 April 2011 (EDT) RUTHNEVADA~ I too have those documents from when McKinsie(Mack) needed to do an apprenticeship because his father had "absconded the country" and the marriage certificate. I just posted info on my Dad's relation to Mack in a thread below(I had him do the DNA test). His relation is Clyde/Abner Bond/Merrill/McKinsie. Our McKinsie line (DNA showed) is related to an Abner Willis of Washington Co, VA (this Abner is a different one then Abner Bond, who is my G Grandfather), which I am sure is in this thread somewhere. But Mack is NOT related to the William Willis everyone thinks he is related to, that I see on Ancestry.com, and not Nancy Smith but as you said, his mom's name was Nancy. It's very possible Mack is related to a William Willis, but he isn't related to the one everyone posts at Ancestry.com. This family of ours is VERY mysterious lol. I would love to hear what your line is if you don't mind sharing? Please feel free to contact me if you are interested or anyone who shares the McKinsie line. We sure need more Male Willis' to do the DNA test so that maybe we can figure out who Mack's father and mother were, and it would be great if we could connect McKinsie to Abner Willis of Washington Co, VA as we don't know where our trees meet. --WILLISdescendant1 13:22, 23 August 2011 (EDT) [edit] Help [22 April 2011]Bill , Two questions: When I bag something from the internet and I want to send you the page or link, and I want to send it to you through WeRelate, what is THAT email address? Knowing that, will keep my correspondence in reference to genealogy in one place.
I think because this site is so big now (thanks to you and thank you again with hugs)
But there should be some way to search an individual and everything pertaining to that person will pull up. Remember back in the nineties before County GenWeb Pages had a search button? Things were listed under catergoies? That is what I am experiencing here. Hopefully time will allow that to happen. T--ruthnevada 13:09, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
[edit] Susan Willis--change of birth place [25 April 2011]Hi there, I was reviewing an edit you made on Person:Susan Willis (7) last month and am curious as to why you changed her place of birth from Washington County, Virginia to Washington, Iowa. I'm curious to your source for this as Iowa didn't have much settlement until the 1830s, nor does this information seem to coincide with other information about the family. Thanks, Kim--Kim Ostermyer 19:40, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
[edit] I'll change the info on FTDNA [14 May 2011]Yes, I am the kit owner of that record. I'll change it at the source--Ceez 15:38, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
I'm not totally sure what you mean by adding a link to the Family History section. WIll look around, and see if I can figure it out. Maybe I'm being dense ;)--Ceez 13:13, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
What I'm thinking about is getting around the limitation on the amount of family history information can be provided for public view on the Family history text box for your kit. A link to the appropriate WeRelate page would do the trick. I know such links can work, because I've been able to add them to the "group notes"---unfortunately, most folks can't see the group notes, as they're sort of working notes about the group to be used for site Administration. Don't think kit owners can see them. If you wanted to give it a try, the easiest way to do it would be to insert something like That would work, but the link wouldn't be "live". More coding would be needed to make it live. Unfortunately, the obvious "href" coding results in a "fatal error" message. Probably can't be done, so the simple URL above will have to do, and folks would have to cut and paste to get to the site. Q 17:13, 14 May 2011 (EDT) [edit] McKinsie Willis DNA Results [25 August 2011]Hi, My Father is a descendant of Clyde/Abner Bond/Merrill/McKinsie Willis. EDITED: His McKinzie's father may have been a William, but there is no concrete proof, I know though that people feel it adds up what they do know. Hoping to find more descendants of Mack (McKinsie) that match the DNA test results, that is the only way we may find out who is real father was. I do have some documents I would be happy to share if interested. Would like to find proof of Mack's sister being Rachel Willis too, and other siblings. --WILLISdescendant1 12:58, 23 August 2011 (EDT) Hi Sal. I'll Guess that you and Teressa have already shared most of the information that you hold in common....In which case I've probably already seen it. Terssa and I have been working to gether for a fair bit of time. Finding another lineage Whose YDNA matched up with Abner Willis of SW VA, was certainly an interested discovery. I spent a bit of time looking at McKensie's lineage, but soon realized that it dead ended at about the same about the same moment in time as Abner's. I still believe that Abner is the son of Henry Willis of Saltville, but others who claim descent from that Henry, do not match in terms of YDNA. Unfortunately, I've been unable to get a good sense that they have their lineage correct. I suspect that they descend from the Henry Willis who appeared in Greene County TN after the Revolution, but their linkage to Henry of Saltville is, I think, largely unsupported. They say its so, but when asked why, they seem unable to provide direct evidence. Currently, I'm not focused on this lineage, and while I'm always interested in new data as it comes in, my suspicion is that finding the connecting link between McKensie and Abner, is going to be a very hard slog. Not impossible, but quite difficult. YDNA studies remain the best hope of solving this problem. By the way, I believe Abner had a brother Amos, who appears about the same time Abner does (about 1795) in the tax records of SW VA. living in close proximity of each other. I believe this Amos went to western Kentucky, near the TN border, or perhaps just over the border, sometime after 1810. One of the things I hope to see one day is a YDNA record for this particular line. Q 10:26, 25 August 2011 (EDT) Hi (Bill?)!
I had the researcher send me Mack and Mary Logsdon's marriage certificate, and court records on Mack needing to do an apprenticeship, and other items, back in March or April and I have shared those on my Ancestry.com family tree and with Teressa and others. I hope that the gal that did the research for me before, can get those documents I didn't have her get me on william and nancy smith. It is all sooo confusing. I have a distant cousin (she is related through William Sidney Willis, Merrill Willis's son from his 1st marriage. I am related to her through Merrill's son Abner Bond Willis, from his 3rd marriage) who I suggested that her Father have the DNA test done, and she is having him do it, I believe she has sent it in. Not sure it will prove anything but I am glad he is doing it and we'll find out this fall for sure! I usually recommend to people I contact at times, about info on their family tree that is related to ours, that they have a Male Willis do the test but so far, I don't think anyone has lol. So you aren't researching Abner of VA and Mack Willis anymore? I can't recall right now if you said you feel we are related to Henry of Rhode Island or Henry of VA? This WErelate is all new to me so I hope to get better at navigating it. Hope to talk to you in the future!--WILLISdescendant1 10:48, 25 August 2011 (EDT)
[edit] McKinzie Willis [18 September 2011]Hi Bill, When you have a chance will you take a look at the McKinzie Willis page? He is listed as having several siblings born 50 years after him. Thanks, Teressa--ruthnevada 14:10, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
I believe Sal is of the view that William is not the father, but has not marshalled proof to support that. Until we have a solid reason to believe that the data we have is not right its probably best to leave the data as is, rather than leap to a conclusion. The best approach, I think, would be to make use of WeRelates documentation fields to show a) the DOB's for the individuals shown are correct or not, and b) that William and Mary Logsdon are their parents. Eventually, something will clearly break, and that may give insight as to whether William and Mary are indeed the parents of McKinsey. Q 19:08, 18 September 2011 (EDT) [edit] McKinzie Willis [19 October 2011]There is an error for the McKinzie Willis tree. There are two trees listed. The first shows Mckinzies parents having children in their seventies and eighties. The second one seems correct. Even if the tree submitted that way, it is highly improbable. Are the trees that are submitted identified by who sent them?--ruthnevada 13:29, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
[edit] question and thanks [29 February 2012]Thanks for fixing my citation error yesterday, I'm starting to get the hang of this. Now I have one question, why are individuals born in the 1600 and earlier in my gedcom files flagged as early and not imported?--Projectmc 19:32, 29 February 2012 (EST)
[edit] New ribbons [6 March 2012]I made some new ribbons for Well Written Narrative, Genealogy Well Done, and Featured Article. The following are scalable SVG images, rather than bitmap files. The current ribbons, red and green, only seem to be used on a few older articles. Many featured articles, have green star ribbons, and only the older (circa 2007) articles have the ribbons on the Featured Articles page. Perhaps all the former featured articles need to be checked, given red Featured Article ribbons, and also either a Well Written Narrative ribbon or a Genealogy Well Done ribbon. — Parsa 02:25, 6 March 2012 (EST) Hi Parsa---Those look really nice, and their use will be a welcome addition. The use of the ribbons was something I started mostly so that we could acknowledge well done articles, etc. Something that would highlight an article that you came across that had been a featured article, or something someone thought was well done. DeliJim picked up on that, and has been adding ribbons to featured articles etc. Since he's the one now identifying featured articles I'll pass this on to him. Q 08:58, 6 March 2012 (EST)
[edit] William Porter Sr. [12 March 2012]--RBH 21:26, 11 March 2012 (EDT) [edit] Wm. Porter Sr. of Rockbridge County, VA [12 March 2012]Hi, Received your message about not changing Jane (Jean Gean). I have looked through the various Rootsweb Familly tree pages aznd they all name her as Jane or Jane Rebecca and some as Jean. I believe that it is something that the Scoth-Irish did very frequently was to spell Jane as Jean. It was used interchangeably and is enough to amke a person crazy not to mention the overuse of the same names down through the whole family. So much of the early trees are seen as cast in cement that a lot of the information is passed on without verification. Any ideas on trying to find proof of Gean Mackey in Chauley's Chronicles ? I have spent hours going through the volumes. One would think there would be an easier way. I am pretty much a novice when it comes to research. I have gleaned my information by looking at many many family trees plus my own and if something does not look right to me I start digging.--RBH 21:38, 11 March 2012 (EDT)
One of the reasons you may have had difficulty finding references in Chalkley's is because of the "Mc" at the begining of the name. Entries for "McKay" are listed at the beginning of the "M's" entries, but deeper down in alphabetical order if the name was spelled "MacKay", as was more usually the case. You also have to be aware of likely alternative spellings such as McKey vs McKay vs Mackey etc. Chalkley gives an item in volume 2 for Jane McKay ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/augusta/court/2court30.txt Thomas Berry vs. Rebecca Berry--O. S. 414; N. S. 150--Bill by Rebecca Berry of Rockingham, daughter of Henry Berry, who bought 212 acres from 213 acres from George Homrickhizer. Oratrix had brother John and brother Henry and brother Thomas. Deed was made to Thomas. In 1818 Thos. sold 20 acres to Thos. Gilmore. Henry, Sr., died 1810, intestate, leaving wife, since dead, and children, viz: Thos., Henry, Sarah McCloud; Jane, who married Jno. Gladen; John; Margaret Smith, deceased; Elizabeth McClure, deceased, leaving son Joseph McClure McKey (McChee?); oratrix. Oratrix has lived on the land 24 years. In 1827 John H. Campbell received deed from Thos. Berry. Geo. Berry deposes in Harrisonburg, June, 1828, Henry Berry was his apprentice and Henry Berry and Charles Spracher about 12 years ago. Geo. is 63 years old and Thos. Berry is five years younger. Rebecca was 20 years old when the land was bought from Humbrickhouser. At that time she had a bastard child. Witness knew Thos. Berry before he came to Virginia. George came with Henry's family. They came 10-11 years before purchase from Humbrickhouser from the Jerseys. Thos. Berry married daughter of Jno. Gordon, who deposes, Gordon with Thos. Berry is about to move to Western Country. Gordon McWilliams deposes, he was a waggoner to Fredericksburg. George Gordon had lived on the Humbrickhouser place. John Berry, son of Henry, Sr., deposes, Henry came from New Jersey, about 10 miles from Monmouth Court House; they moved to Virginia when the troops were ordered to the Whiskey Rebellion. Thomas was then about 23 years old. Jane married John McKay about 1797, and afterwards John Gladwell. Sallie McCloud moved to the West Fork of Potomac. At age 13 John Berry was put to learn blacksmith trade and went to Kentucky and was gone 6 months. Henry, Sr., died 16 years ago last April. Thomas Gordon lived in Muddy Creek in 1812. There's also an entry for Jane McKey in volume 3 ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/augusta/court/3court13.txt Page 200--22d November, 1773.-- John Macky's will--To wife, Mary; to son, Henry, a plantation in Forks of James River in Botetourt County, 170 acres; to son, William, 360 acres the testator lives on; to daughter, Jane; to daughter, Mary: to daughter, Esther; to daughter, Betsy. "Until my children come to full age." Executors, wife Mary, brother-in-law Wm Porter, Henry McClung. Teste: Archibald Alexander, Joseph Reed, John Peoples. Proved, 15th March. 1774, by the witnesses. Executors qualify (Mary __ her mark) with Saml. McDowell. John Porter. There may be additional entries. I'd recommend that you use the Rootsweb treatment of Chalkley's, rather than say the Ancestry version, with rootsweb, you can look at the index, and quickly spot different spellings of the same name. On Ancestry you have to plug each variant into the search field. If you don't think of a likely variant you might miss it entirely. However, I'm not sure what you meant by "proof of Jane McKay". Did you mean proving that Gean was Jane or Jean? or proof that she was John McKay's wife or daughter, or something else altogether. As far as maintaining the spelling of the given name as Gean, I don't know what that was in reference to, but perhaps it was related to a transcription of a document. Yes, most of us understand that "Gean" is "Jean" is "Jane". But if you are transcribing a specific source, and they spell the name "Gean" that spelling should be used in the transcription. Its OK, I think, when you write aobut the person to make the equivocation and use the "Jane" spelling. But when quoting the original one should not change the spelling to the more modernized form. There are, of course, exceptions to everything. It depends on the circumstances. Q 09:21, 12 March 2012 (EDT) [edit] Wm. Porter Sr. Rockbridge County [12 March 2012]--RBH 14:32, 12 March 2012 (EDT) [edit] Porter [12 March 2012]As I look back on my last message, I can see why you were confused. I was referring to both Jane, Jean, Gean *mother and daughter. Mother Gean is listed as being a Black on many website family trees. This is what I meant by misreading the will and interpreting both Geans as being one person. I believe she(mother was not a Black but a Mackey. Her daughter Jane, Jean, Gean married Samuel Black. She is listed as a Mackey b. 1711 in several Family Tree sites. Wm. Sr. is said to have been born in Goshen, Rockbridge county. He couldn't have been because it was then Orange County which is where his first land purchase was recorded from.He died in Rockbridge Co. and his son is listed as being born in Rockbridge, Goshen but a 1735 birthdate would have made it still in Orange. He also, died in Goshen, Rockbridge in 1804. His son John, his first born (1730) is listed as born in Botetourt. No wonder I can't find records...I don't know where to look! Strangely, there is no death date listed for Gean (wife) but she is still mentioned in his will which was written in 1780. Probated in 1782. Records for him are found in Orange, Augusta and Rockbridge. Have another inquiry as to land that will address at a later date. Thanks so much for your help. RBH--RBH 14:56, 12 March 2012 (EDT) [edit] New database on Ancestry [1 May 2012]Hi Bill, Noticed this new database on Ancestry which may be helpful with your Pennsylvania research; Pennsylvania, Tax and Exoneration, 1768-1801. Have a great weekend. --Beth 08:33, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
[edit] Germanna colonies [17 May 2012]Hi Bill, Never heard of these until recently. Husband probably a descendant of the Broyles family from the Second Colony.--Beth 00:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT) [edit] Next step: Review your GEDCOM [12 July 2012]You're not done yet! WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors. Now that you have uploaded Willis Family Tree.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it. Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier. Click here to review your GEDCOM Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.
[edit] Next step: Review your GEDCOM [12 July 2012]You're not done yet! WeRelate is different from most family tree websites. By contributing to WeRelate you are helping to create Pando for genealogy, a free, unified family tree that combines the best information from all contributors. Now that you have uploaded Willis Family Tree.ged, your next step is to review what your pages will look like, review any potential warnings, and combine (merge) people in your GEDCOM with matching people already on WeRelate. You need to review your GEDCOM before it can finish importing. We will keep your GEDCOM in the queue for two weeks to give you time to review it. Note: if your gedcom contains many errors or multiple families, we’d ask that you resolve and correct the errors, delete this gedcom and re-submit it without the errors before merging it with families already on WeRelate. If the gedcom is very large, we’d suggest breaking it up into separate files (or families) and importing them one at a time, which makes the review and correction process easier. Click here to review your GEDCOM Once you have finished your review and marked your GEDCOM Ready to import, one of our administrators will review your GEDCOM and finalize the import. This usually happens within 24 hours. You will receive a message here when the pages have been created.
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[edit] [1 January 2013]Thank you for separating the erroneous Cowan merge. I will attempt to correct my original pages, which were not the same family members of Person:Samuel Cowan (17) and make a note of same.--Khaentlahn 09:24, 1 January 2013 (EST)
[edit] Thank-you [30 January 2013]Thank-you for all of your hard work you have put into WeRelate over the years. I am finding it easier to navigate and I am finding data much easier. I'm not sure what it is that makes it easier but I certainly appreciate it! T--ruthnevada 16:16, 30 January 2013 (EST)
[edit] Augusta and Kanawha [14 March 2013]Hi Bill, got your note, the changes look good, thanks:) I also noticed another page that you had added a map and additional info the other day, thanks also for adding that, too:) Have a great week, Jim:)--Delijim 17:11, 14 March 2013 (EDT) [edit] Christopher Gist [27 April 2013]You may want to move the issue you raised with the spouse of Christopher Gist to the talk page. Having said that I have to disagree with your statement that Darlington identifies her as Zipporah Murray, he quite clearly says she is the wife of Richard Gist, Christophers father, and by inference his mother. He also states that Christopher's wife was Sarah Howard. Whilst I have yet to confirm her surname, I do have three of the named children as being baptized to Christopher and Sarah Gist in Baltimore.--Btomp 13:55, 27 April 2013 (EDT)
[edit] Willis familiy in Isle of Wight Va [4 May 2013]Hi Bill, How are you? Been working on husband's Gay family that were in the Isle of Wight Va. The Gay family lived on the line that adjoined Nansemond Co. Some of the Gay family lived in Nansemond but unfortunately the records no longer exist. His and other Gay families use the given name Willis. The first known Willis Gay was b. in the late 1700's. William and Willis are used as different given names as some families named children William and Willis. Just wondering if you have found any docs that have both the Gay and Willis surname. Thanks. --Beth 22:16, 3 May 2013 (EDT)
[edit] Samuel Givens [5 May 2013]I do not know how this URL changed but it has. Here is the correct one for the ref fo Sam Givens. Brenda in Memphis (Comtutors) http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=brendablack&id=I20557
Q 09:20, 5 May 2013 (EDT) [edit] Wigtown, Wigtownshire, Scotland [16 May 2013]The map that you added from Wikipedia in April 2013 has been moved to the page [[Place:Wigtown (town), Wigtownshire, Scotland|the town of Wigtown]]. The present parish map is one that is now part of all the Wigtownshire parish pages and I wanted to retain the format throughout the county. --goldenoldie 10:58, 16 May 2013 (EDT) [edit] Meadow Creek John Walker [18 May 2013]Hello -- I have been using Ancestry.com for my genealogical search. However, I found the article on Meadow Creek John Walker, from whom I am descended; so I thought I would write to you to ask you if you have any further details on my ancestor I have been trying to sort out fact from what I believe is legend. Many sources claim that MCJW was a veteran soldier of the Am. Rev and received bounty lands in Tennessee for his service. Based on "Connections in East Tennessee" by Edwards and Frizzel, land grants were registered to him; however, I cannot find a good source that demonstrates these grants were issued based on military service. DAR has a "patriot" ancestor listed as John Walker form SW Virginia. I think this might be MCJW; because his wife was named Mary and his son, Thomas, was married to my 5x great grandmother, Elizabeth Magill (McGill). But this John Walker served as a juror not as a soldier, and that service, while valuable is not so valiant. Do you have any information that would shed light on this issue? Taffy Walker--Yumataffy 21:10, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
[edit] Help please [22 October 2013]Hello, I have often wondered about your user name Quoll with and "a" for Koala, both of which are native Australian animals and your researched pages appear to all be in the USA. Is there a story to this? Anyway that is not the reason for contacting you. I like the Tapestry idea and I would like to create one for the First Fleet in Australia but in looking at the pages and even going to edit and looking at the layout of the background I get some idea but I am not certain how to create a Tapestry like banner. Is there one specific template page that I could copy and then modify? Thank you Jeffrey--Jeffrey Lehrer 02:36, 21 October 2013 (UTC) HI Jeffery No, initially the handle Quolla was a random choice, more or less being playful, then came Q, then the image of the Koala. I've no personal connection with that part of the world that I know of, though I do have a few colleagues living in those area. I'm glad you like the idea underlying the Tapestry. Some get it some do not. The navigation templates have a long developmental history. There close to what's needed, but I continue to tinker with them. Basically, they are laid out so that certain parts can be reused and recombined in different ways, without creating the whole thing everytime, and also trying to keep a tight grip on consistency. The main ideas are that you can organize articles in such a way that a) what's been written is recoverable (not so easy as it might seem) b) you can move from one area of the Tapestry and back without too much effort---or reliance on memory. I presume that what you are trying to do is create lineages for persons in the First Fleet, and couple them in someway with other sets of articles---say about specific unit histories, places, events, etc. There are several template's that could be used to style something else from, but saying which one's would work best for your purposes would require knowing more about your purposes. Usually, the banner includes three or four elements, framed in an html table. I prefer HTML style rather than the wiki table style, but that's a personal preference The four elements are: 1. TOC along the left hand edge 2. Banner image in the top middle 3. A navigation pane to major parts of the Tapestry at the bottom middle 4. A menu along the right hand edge, specific to the portion of the tapestry that's being worked on. The TOC element is easiest to do, because you just use the _TOC_ command to insert the pages TOC The Banner image is also easy, as you just need an appropriate image for the part of the tapestry being worked. The navigation pane simply includes links to whatever part of the Tapestry you want folks to be able to get to quickly. In my case that's things like "Old Augusta", "Old Chester" etc. The menu pane provides links to specific subsets of information that are more or less standardized to that part of the Tapestry.
which looks something like
I've disabled the TOC because you don't really want to have the entire TOC of this particular page shown. But this gives the main idea. The bits inside the curly braces are templates that have their own specific code. What goes in those bits of code depends on what you want to see in the navigation box. In this case its a set of links to various things related to the Cowan surname (Cowan Tapestry Menu), and a set of links to various main parts of the Tapestry Write me privately and tell me what you have in mind, and I'll make some specific recommendations. Q 12:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC) Thanks for that, I tried to contact privately but you either have that disabled or an incorrect email address. Anyway, there were 11 ships, so the 11 ship names would be one type of category, I was imagining where you have the "Old Augusta", etc under the image. Then the first fleeters are usually divided into three main categories. Convicts, male, female and children of. Marines, officials and their families. Sailors. I imagine these categories and sub categories could go on the side panel. Best Regards Jeffrey--JeffreyRLehrer 12:58, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
There are always many ways that you can slice a layer cake. Some work better for different purposes than others. From what you describe, your suggested approach sounds reasonable. The way The tapestry works is to have two main sets of groups: Surname Tapestries, and Place Name Tapestries. Sort of like Genealogy forums, some of which are location specific, and others are surname specific. If you're pursuing someone named "Cowan" who was living in Chester County PA in 1760, you might first search the Cowan message board, and see what turned up. But it might also be useful to query the Chester Message board, as there might be folks on that board who might not be particularly interested in Jones, but have lots of information about Chester County---and Jones data might be in their information set. In the Tapestry the two ideas are combined, at least where the approach has been most rigorously applied. So you have an "Old Chester Cowan Tapestry" where information about Cowans in Old Chester is being collected. Let me know if I can help further. Q 14:08, 22 October 2013 (UTC) [edit] Template on Page of Robert Allen (71) [26 October 2013]Hi Bill, Janie Jackson Kimball (janiejac) sent me a note on my Talk Page that the template on the page of Robert Allen didn't look right. I don't see anything on my browser, maybe you can check it out. Thanks and best regards, Jim:)--Delijim 02:10, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
[edit] you're adding the childlist to the wrong family. [9 November 2013]Please read the page you are editing. --Jrich 23:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Person:John Cowing (1) [11 November 2013]I am not sure what you are trying to do but what you are doing is not right. So there are two families with husband John Cowing. If you want to make the husband unknown remove the husband from the family page. Do not remove John from his parents. The parents and the birth in Scitate go togther. You can't take one without the other. He belongs on the family page of the parents where he was. Where he perhaps doesn't belong is on the Family page with Sarah Mitchell. --Jrich 16:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
WHile I consider what is being shown now for these two families to be the best supported interpretation of both the YDNA evidence and the documentary evidence, the situation, like most family histories, is rather complicated. There maybe other factors involved here than is immediately obvious. More YDNA evidence from other male lines of descent would From both Scituate A and B, would help with that, but are not likely to be immediately forth coming. A resolution of the identity of John (1)'s wife as Rebecca Mann would also help, as would be additional insight into the DOB's of the children attributed to John and Rebecca. If, for instance, these turned out to be baptismal dates, than they may have actually been Richards children, though they took the Cowen surname. Q 18:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Nancy Rutledge [13 November 2013]Everything I have read which I think includes a county history, says the Rutledge family moved to White Top Mountain (across from the present day Bristol Race Course) The Grayson location doesn't seem right nor Montgomery County from any research I have seen. Donna Atkinson--DAtkinson 23:12, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
[edit] sources for Nancy Rutledge [13 November 2013]Per article in The Lookout Notable Southern Families THE RUTLEDGE FAMILY by Robert Thomas Case a great great great grandson of General George Rutledge, Elinor or Eleanor migrated to the Americas about 1763. They emigrated and landed at Charleston South Carolina and then removed to Augusta County, Virginia, where they settled in the neighborhood known as Tinkling Spring. William remained there until 1777 when he and his family removed to Sullivan County, Tennessee, settling on a small creek known as White Top where he produced grants for his land.
I understand that Sullivan was in North Carolina until about 1779 but the area is always stated as White Top in Sullivan. This needs to be clarified somehow. da--DAtkinson 23:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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