User talk:Amelia.Gerlicher

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Hi--Thanks so much for your participation. You have created great pages.

We would greatly appreciate your input on the help and tutorial pages. After drafting and multiple rewrites, well, they all look the same to me anymore. I want them to very clear and easy to use. If you have any comments or suggestions please email Solveig.

Thanks again :)--sq 20:15, 27 June 2006 (MDT)

Thanks so much for your suggestions. You are doing great work on the Mass research guide. I will be at the BYU conference tommorrow and at the FGS conference in Boston at the end of the month. Stop by and say hi if your close by. Thanks again. --sq 14:04, 31 July 2006 (MDT)

Hi, WeRelate will feature ancestor pages in a few weeks and GEDCOM uploads about December, 2006. Ancestor pages will make posting biographies very simple. This has brought up some licensing issues. Please read [[Licensing_issues_discussion_page|]] and give us your opinion. This is the notice we're sending to our registered users. Thanks for your input in this matter. If you have any other comments, feel free to respond. Thanks --sq 16:08, 14 August 2006 (MDT)

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Thank you for your comments on page titles

I think this latest solution is much better than what I had started out with, and I wouldn't have considered it without your thoughtful comments. Thanks.--Dallan 18:33, 24 August 2006 (MDT)


Thank you for your comments on image uploading

I wanted to thank your for your comments. I added a new license for copyrighted works before 1964 without renewal, as well as another case for works published without copyright notices before 1978. I've also added autocompletion on the image filename field in the person and family pages so you don't have to memorize the image title. I'll fix the "re-upload doesn't re-select the license" bug tomorrow.--Dallan 22:35, 13 November 2006 (MST)


Pedigree Migration Map

Hi, Just wanted to show off the Pedigree Migration Map. It is colored coded for vital information for children, spouse, subject, and six ancestors. You can click on the individuals you want to see at the top of the screen. What do you think? --Dallan 23:04, 22 November 2006 (MST)


Family Tree Explorer

Hi,

We just launched a early release of the Family Tree Explorer. In case you'd like to try it out, I've taken the pages that you've created and added them to a tree called "mytree". So when you launch Family Tree Explorer, you should be able to click on File then Open to view your tree. I'd be interested to get any feedback you have. We're going to be working on it intensely over the next several weeks, so this is a great time to have some input into how it will turn out.--Dallan 23:35, 20 January 2007 (MST)

Dear Amelia,

I have created a page for the William Morrow of Ireland

My user name is CMorrow. Can you link it into your page.

Cheers

chris


You found a bug

Thank-you for your comment on WeRelate talk:Sources. You found a bug with search: if you leave the "place" field empty but enter something in the "located in" field, the search ignores the "located in" field. I'm going to fix this.--09:51, 8 May 2007 (MDT)


Can I get a gedcom for Lovejoy? [23 October 2007]

Hi, it was great to see your input on my Maddocks lines and Lovejoy.

Can you send me your gedcom file so I can merge it with mine? I will send you mine also if you want.

My Maddocks Web page is here:

http://www.pearception.org/phpged/index.php?ctype=gedcom&ged=maddocks01.ged

My email: catchall@sisna.com

Thank you!

Larry Maddocks 801-759-1604 (my cell; call any time except between 2-7 am  :-)--Waterart 12:39, 21 October 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for the William Bassett link -- I especially appreciate the footnoting.--Hh219 13:03, 23 October 2007 (EDT)


Mayflower Lines [24 October 2007]

Hi Amelia The line you have picked up on, is my proven descent from Francis Cooke of the Mayflower.

Since this is still very new to me, I am not sure what you are saying that I might change?

Bonnie--Bboops 03:48, 24 October 2007 (EDT)


Merging [26 November 2007]

Thanks Amelia for merging the Phelps/Griswold family duplicate pages. What a feat that was! <g> I come across families all the time that need merged, but after a few early attempts and experiencing linking problems in the process, I have since chickened out. I may give it another try though. Thanks again! --Ronni 14:26, 26 November 2007 (EST)


Savage and Jeremiah Tibbetts [24 December 2007]

The Savage reference on Jeremiah Tibbetts is very cool. I was hoping someone would give me that on CD-ROM for Christmas, but no luck yet. Before I try to educate myself on using it via the stuff you put in the source write-up, do you have a page number on that stuff? I'm propogating the reference and fragments of it...

Thanks! jrm03063--Jrm03063 09:27, 24 December 2007 (EST)


Your Opinion / NEHGR source citation convention? [12 January 2008]

Source style, S1 vs. S2 on the Person:Samuel Tibbetts (1) page. Your S2 is more economical in the sense that a web browser can easily jump you to the paper citation, which yields all the needed Source:The New England Historical and Genealogical Register information. S1 is more like what we might typically see published, but it yields a bit of irritating duplication as it gets used on different pages. I'm not sure what I prefer, but would like to follow a common convention.--Jrm03063 14:50, 11 January 2008 (EST)


There is no WeRelate convention. For a discussion of what it shoulc be, check out the talk:Source Committee page. In my opinion, the best possible citation is probably a cross between the two - a link to the source page, followed by periodical (if relevant), page number, and notes. I don't think the NEHGR page should be linked in a source citation, because it's not a source, it provides no useful information, and requires way too much effort to achieve that lack of usefulness because the source entry is not formatted to facilitate it. But I go back and forth on this because I haven't recorded page numbers for most of the specific information from articles, it's pretty much redundant to provide the periodical information if it's already in the link. And as far as books and other sources go, since the publication information is all on the source page [theoretically], I don't bother typing it out as part of the citation.--Amelia.Gerlicher 17:26, 11 January 2008 (EST)

I wasn't looking for anything as grand as an overall convention - that sort of thing will develop over time in the wiki tradition. I just knew that you and I had some overlap and wanted to have some broad sense of a convention. Thanks...--Jrm03063 08:44, 12 January 2008 (EST)


MorrowT.ged Imported Successfully [25 January 2008]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may view them by launching the Family Tree Explorer and opening the family tree into which this GEDCOM was imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 22:17, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Doolittle & Ashley 27 Jan 2008

Amelia, thanks for the updates to the pages of Eunice Doolittle, Samuel Ashley, et al. I appreciate the additional source information, which I am incorporating into my own offline database. Thank you. Jillaine


Nicholas Disborough and Elizabeth STRICKLAND [30 January 2008]

I see you took off one of Nicholas' three wives, namely Elizabeth Strickland. I could not find a place on this site for sources. Could you tell me what sources you have for his wives? Larry Maddocks 801-759-1604 catchall at sisna . com--Waterart 23:25, 29 January 2008 (EST)


Changes/Quigley [6 February 2008]

I am confused as to what you are doing. I am being notified you are making changes to pages I have entered, but the changes elude me. are you trying to merge overlapping entries? Please edify me.

On another note, I see you have listed Quigley's in Wisconsin as a family of interest. My Great grandmother was Eliza Quigley who married Joseph Gray about 1852 and they first lived at a place called Brass Ball Wisconsin in Kenosha County. I remember seeing it as a child. There was a brass ball about the size of a grapefruit hanging from wires in the middle of an intersection. I don't believe the place consisted of any more than just one gas station. It wa practically right on the Illinois-Wisconsin state line, maybe 10 miles from lake Michigan. They moved to Lake Villa Illinois shortly after and remained there,no more than 5 miles from Brass Ball.

I believe I have found Eliza with parents John and Mary (how unique) in Kenosha County in the 1850 census. Both parents aged 60 and are said to be born in Ireland and Eliza in Connecticut.

From the 1880 census:

Eliza GRAY Female Other Information: Birth Year <1832> Birthplace CT Age 48 Occupation Keeping House Marital Status M <Married> Race W <White> Head of Household Joseph Gray Relation Wife Father's Birthplace IRE Mother's Birthplace IRE

Source Information: Census Place Antioch, Lake, Illinois Family History Library Film 1254221 NA Film Number T9-0221 Page Number 632D

Joseph Gray was born in Londonderry to Scottish parents and emigrated alone to Montreal at 9 yrs old where he lived with a married sister. I believe I have seen evidence that Eliza was born in Danbury, CT.

I found the following on line:

Tombstone in Old St. Marks Cemetery, Kenosha, WI Mary Quigley Born Feburary 18, 1818 in Donegal County, Ireland Died January 7, 1909. Headstone: Gray Granite, Artwork: Cross on horizontal surface, scrolls on top of front surface. (possible older sister?--Scot 18:12, 6 February 2008 (EST)


Parentage of Robert Fuller 3 [1 March 2008]

Amelia,

You have added parents for Robert Fuller (John Fuller and Ann Collinge), but you did not cite any sources. I think parentage, especially for the earlier immigrants should always be sourced before they are added as their is often a lot of bad secondary sources and leaps of faith associated with this in many family histories that I think we all want to avoid. Do you have a source for this?

If so, it would be great to bring this line back further in time as you are suggesting.

Cheers,

Jeff--Jbernard 14:30, 29 February 2008 (EST)


Amelia,

I saw your note on my talk page on this topic. Thanks. I'll visit the Robert Fuller talk page to pursue this further. Thanks for merging all these trees/lines. I'm still new on this and trying to figure out how to do that.

Best regards,

Jeff--Jbernard 00:10, 1 March 2008 (EST)


Changing Nickolas Snow [3 March 2008]

Dear Miss Gerlicher,

Hi I am kaye 1966. I believe you changed my tree on MyRelate. I am afraid I am a novice just beginning to learn about MyRelate. I am having some difficulty. I can not determain the changes made. If you will so kind to tell me how I can view the changes and what you knew to make those changes.

Thank you so much, Kaye1966--Kaye1966 15:35, 3 March 2008 (EST)


Atherton [7 March 2008]

Hi Amelia

Are you also a Mayflower?

Seems we have much in common.

I am still trying to figure out how werelate really works, so I am not very good on the editing end. Looks like you have mastered it. Would you do me a favor and give me a quick tutorial? Every time I go through the tutorial, I just smiss something, or just mess up.

Thanks, Bonnie--Bboops 10:27, 7 March 2008 (EST)


Your updates to my family tree [8 March 2008]

Thank you so much for your efforts, Amelia. I notice you have made many changes, especially to collateral lines but sometimes to my direct ancestry as well. I especially appreciate the sources you add. I started this as a personal hobby directed to my husband's and my direct lines with little regard for collateral data. You have expanded this to make my tree much more useful to other researchers. With your efforts, perhaps we can one day either (1) correct much of the erroneous data out there or (2) at least provide all the versions with sources, thus allowing future researchers to weigh the evidence for themselves. Best, Doris--Doriswh 09:07, 8 March 2008 (EST)


Baileywick update [30 March 2008]

Amelia,

Thank you for the correction and update!

My granddaughter's name is Amelia!

Regards,

Joseph.--JFBailey 14:29, 30 March 2008 (EDT)


Birth of Benjamin [23 April 2008]

Jane Dabinott married Thomas Newberry in 1630, when she was 15.

But she is shown as having Benjamin in 1624, which would be six years before she was married. And she would be nine years old when she bore Benjamin.

Is her birth date wrong? Or is Benjamin's?

Just trying to make sense of this. Thanks.

Dick Holmes--Osmond 00:33, 23 April 2008 (EDT)


WeRelate time disappearing [29 May 2008]

Hi Amelia, I will miss your contributions to WeRelate. Hope that you can return soon. --Beth 08:09, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

Thanks...when will depend on how compliant my newborn is ;-)

Congratulations and enjoy your newborn. He or she will be grown before you know it. --Beth 11:49, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

Hello... [19 June 2008]

It's good to see you back working. You have a ruthless streak with respect to this stuff that I've come to appreciate. :)--Jrm03063 16:18, 17 June 2008 (EDT)


Hi, I'm relatively new here. Seeing all the duplicates bugs me so I've been merging files as I go along. Many of the ones I've merged I see you've done work on after the fact. Am I causing problems for you? Don't want to make more work. Also, I thought in the past I was able to delete pages like, unknown m. unknown, but don't seem to be able to now. (I saw you did delete one of these I am talking about.) Anyhow, let me know if you'd prefer I didn't merge these duplicates together. Angela--Feenerty 18:24, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

By all means, keep merging! I haven't run into any place where I think we've worked at cross purposes. If I've accidently set myself to watch a page you'd like to delete, let me know and I'll take that off.--Amelia 19:40, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

okey dokey--Feenerty 21:30, 18 June 2008 (EDT)


Mayflower destined for Hudson Bay? [20 June 2008]

Your templates are lovely, but the Mayflower Template says the destination was supposed to be Hudson Bay. The river Hudson maybe, the Chesapeake Bay maybe, but Hudson Bay - early settlers of Churchill perhaps?--Jrm03063 15:36, 20 June 2008 (EDT)


Volunteer Hours [23 July 2008]

Hi Amelia, How are you and the baby? Hope all is well. You have done some really nice work on the website. I really appreciate your efforts to clean things up and contribute research helps. I have often wondered what your background is. Anyway, I was wondering if you could estimate the time you have spent on developing sources and cleaning up, and record it at the WeRelate:Administrator_log. I need to track volunteer hours in order to keep our non-profit status. Thanks again for all you do.--sq 13:02, 23 July 2008 (EDT)


Thanks [24 July 2008]

Thanks for recording your time. We really do appreciate your contributions to the website.--sq 14:27, 24 July 2008 (EDT)


Source:Missouri, 1910 federal census : soundex and population schedules [25 July 2008]

Hi Amelia, I was going through the Category:Speedy delete and was wondering what the plan is. The FHLC collection is redundant, frustrating, poorly organized and generally difficult to navigate. OK, so that's an understatement. In the beginning, we "crawled" FamilySearch and uploaded the results into the source directory. We have spent hours and hours reorganizing their sources. Spencer is currently adding several thousand more FHLC links that we identified to the place database. They were always there, but the place name was spelled differently. UGh! Our current system with the indexing and search capacity is much better than what FamilySearch has. But, it still needs a lot of work. I really appreciate the time you have been donating to the project. You have been a great help.

Before I delete all those pages, I was wondering if you would mind sharing your ideas. All the FHLC pages on WeRelate are real items from the FHLC catalog. Some items are redundant and have simply spelled the title a little differently. Some items are duplicates. Some items from the catalog are blank. Have you found these population schedule films in another entry? Or, do you have a better indexing plan? If the information doesn't appear elsewhere, I'm not sure that categories are the solution. Most of our users are not all that wiki-savvy and don't know what categories are.

Thanks so much for your time and input. :)--sq 12:54, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

I posted a more complete explanation here. The short answer on the 1910 source is that I listed it as a link on the Category:1910 Missouri census page, and figure that it's more useful there than as a source page, since it's not something you should cite, and it's unlikely there's much to discuss about the FHL's microfilm.--Amelia 15:35, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Lease.ged Imported Successfully [13 August 2008]

The pages from your GEDCOM have been generated successfully. You may view them by launching the Family Tree Explorer and opening the family tree into which this GEDCOM was imported.

For questions or problems, leave a message for Dallan or send an email to dallan@WeRelate.org.

--WeRelate agent 10:32, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

MURRAY FAMILY OF SELKIRK SCOTLAND MATCHES MORROW FAMILY IN USA Y~DNA (37) [19 September 2008]

Dear Amelia,

My name is Alexandrina Murray from Sydney Australia. My father who is 94 years old and a MURRAY has submitted a 67 marker yDNA test with Familytree DNA.The purpose of this post is to inform other members of Morrow research society etc that my father's results are now in and the 25 marker test matches with Morrow family members related to George Morrow who is said to have married Mary Calhoun 1755 circa in North or South Carolina , lived Georgia? Maryland and Pennsylvania (TBD). Accordingly the 25 marker test also matches 24/25 . Most importantly though the 37 marker test result has just returned with a 99% positive result of a common ancestor within a certain timeframe.

I have been in contact with Morrow family members and I think that I can trace the Morrow family back to Selkirk in Scotland 1735 circa.

According to the DNA result there IS a relationship between our families and MURRAY and MORROW MORRAY MORAY MURRAH are one in the same family. The morph occurred according to the transcribed name being written as heard (thick scots accents).

I have the Murray family tree going back to 10 to 20 generations in Scotland.

Please also note that George Morrow who married Mary was arguably GEORGE MORRAY married MARY FLEMING 1763 in Pennsylvania. Perhaps he married 3 times, not twice. The Murray family in Selkirk that I believe may be related were Soldiers....Officers in HM Guards related to Walter Murray and Amelia Murray who were both descended from a well known Murray family in Ettrick-Yarrow -Selkirk Scotland.

Please contact me at any time for further information: I have a very extensive gedcom available 4,500 individuals.

My parents were both born in Scotland and Father's family from Selkirk. I have a paper trail back to 1798 for my direct line and Murrays in the data base back to the 1500's


Sandie--Alexandrina Murray 02:10, 19 September 2008 (EDT)


Kelsey Merge [30 September 2008]

I noticed you had updated some of Kelsey info. Very exciting! This is the first time any of my data has had any activity. I was able to review and merge some sketchy data I had into some much better info. This makes my tree much better. This is the power of WeRelate. I love it! Thanks!--Srblac 20:55, 29 September 2008 (EDT)


Thanks and DNA project [6 October 2008]

Hi Amelia,

Your contributions to WeRelate are wonderful; thank you. Question about your DNA project; I tried several links but never found an actual table listing the marker results for each participant. Interested in viewing the results and the lineages established. I am not a Morrow; I am the administrator of the Coker DNA site. --Beth 20:56, 6 October 2008 (EDT)


Merge not quite right [19 October 2008]

Hi Amelia,

On Family:James Allen and Margaret Coppin (1) the merged page shows a child born in 1722 when the father died in 1657; something not quite right?? --Beth 23:10, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

It's junk from the original gedcom. The merge worked fine.--Amelia 00:05, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Okay, great. --Beth 00:09, 20 October 2008 (EDT)


What does it mean to... ? [7 November 2008]

"Propagating changes to a family member"?

I keep seeing this comment related to changes you make on pages that I'm watching. English please? Thanks! Jillaine 14:25, 2 November 2008 (EST)

It's the system. It means the page was changed because the data that is displayed on it that came from another page was changed, so the system passed the change through (propagated). Like when a person's birthydate is changed, the family page changes.--Amelia 14:52, 2 November 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the explanation. And by the way, I'm tracking your changes on pages on my watchlist. You rock. Thanks for all your hard work. And you have a baby on hip as well??? Wow... Impressive. Jillaine 17:21, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Amelia,

Thanks again for your good edits -- this time to elizabeth george. I like the link you added to the talk page. I will follow that example in the future. Ultimately, I'll track down the source for that argument and put it back on the main page (if you don't beat me to it!) Jillaine 08:03, 7 November 2008 (EST)


COLE family [5 November 2008]

I see that you have information on the COLE family that is in my tree. I have not done a lot of looking at the commonalities, however I plan on it. I was wondering if you have the COLE family as a Mayflower Family? Thanks for the links as up until now I have seen NO activity on my pages.

Heather--Gendigger 08:12, 4 November 2008 (EST)

No, there were no Coles on the Mayflower. See Mayflower Passenger List. Immigrant James Cole came to Plymouth in 1633. --Amelia 19:18, 4 November 2008 (EST)

Thank you for the information.--Gendigger 22:31, 4 November 2008 (EST)


Stanley & Bertha Hall [8 November 2008]

Hi Amelia,

I received the notification from WeRelate that you made some updates. It's not clear, what changes/ updates you made and I'm just curious how you are related. You can contact me off-line at david7dog@yahoo.com.

Thanks, Dave--David7dog 15:45, 8 November 2008 (EST)

I merged duplicate entries, and since they were almost exactly duplicates, the main effect was to change the later entries to redirect to the earlier ones. The email you got should have specified that there was a merge; if not, let Dallan know about the bug.--Amelia 15:52, 8 November 2008 (EST)

work on my tree [19 November 2008]

You have been picking away at the people in my tree for some time - not that I have any complaints about it - you are welcome to do so. My problem is I got an email from the we relate people requesting that I merge my duplicates or have my tree removed from the site.

I don't have time to do any merging, so I assume my data is going to self destruct. If you still want to go through it, it is available on Rootsweb in the World Connect section. The name of the database is and always will be marr794. Here is a direct link:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=marr794&I11.x=24&I11.y=8

Sorry. I wish I had time to really work this site, but I am overloaded as it is.

Ann Marr--Marr794 20:49, 16 November 2008 (EST)


Oooh... I just looked at her WorldConnect GEDCOM. If the version of same on WeRelate is anything like it, DO NOT delete it. She's done nice work, and shared her documentation. Keep it keep it!!! ;-) jillaine 20:58, 16 November 2008 (EST)


I won't delete the tree myself - it will be done by the administrators of the site. I am going to delete the email I got without responding to it - that is the best I can do. And sometime in the future, I might have time to work my way through this site.

Ann Marr--Marr794 21:18, 16 November 2008 (EST)


Ann, Amelia has "sway" with the administrators. That's why I posted here: encouraging her to do what she can so that your tree is not deleted. The fact that she's been merging elements of it with others makes me think it won't be deleted anyway. Hopefully Amelia will respond and clarify. Thanks! jillaine 22:17, 16 November 2008 (EST)

Here's the story: There are about 120 users with more than 100 pages in their trees that probably need to be merged. Most of them have only 100-200 pages to merge, but some have more than 1000. We recently sent out an email to these users asking for their help in merging. We told them that if they were not interested in helping to merge, that their trees would be deleted. The reason is that many of the trees that I've seen aren't all that great, and it doesn't seem fair to ask the "duplicate review committee" to merge an estimated 200,000 people by themselves. However, if a tree has a lot of good data and the committee doesn't mind merging it, I certainly won't delete it.

I'm not planning to delete trees until early next year. We'll contact users again between now and the end of the year and tell them how many of their pages have already been merged and ask again if they'd like to get involved. I figured that early next year we'd list the trees with a lot of duplicates where the owners haven't gotten involved in the merge process. The duplicate review committee can decide whether or not to keep the trees. So if you'd like to keep Ann Marr's tree that's fine with me.

An exception to the above is that roughly 10% of the people we have contacted have "unsubscribed" from WeRelate - they've clicked on the "unsubscribe" link in one of the email notifications that we've sent them so they no longer receive any email notifications from WeRelate. I want to review the contributions made by these users to see if they're still active at all, and if they're not I'd like to list their trees sooner (in the next week or so) and ask the committee to decide whether or not to keep those trees.

Just as an FYI, if a tree is deleted, pages that are being watched by others (i.e., pages that have been merged with others' pages) won't be deleted. Just pages that are being watched only by the original contributor get deleted.

How does that sound?--Dallan 21:09, 18 November 2008 (EST)


I would like the option to request exceptions for entire trees. And this woman's would be one of them. I.e., the quality of her research is so high that I don't think we should delete ANY of her tree. jillaine 21:42, 18 November 2008 (EST)

That's the idea - anyone could say: please don't delete this user's tree -- I'll help merge the duplicates. And the entire tree would not be deleted.--Dallan 00:45, 19 November 2008 (EST)

I'll help merge the duplicates! ;-) -- jillaine 15:22, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Jonathan Fairbanks (5)]] [19 November 2008]

Great stuff you've got here. Thanks!! Linda--Lmuessig 23:55, 18 November 2008 (EST)

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